Ireland and the Fourth International

Papers, journals and pamphlets of the Fourth International's supporters in Ireland, 1969–1996

The Mare

In Socialist Republic: no. 3, October 1975 · scan pages 1–2 · about 466 words

Church, state and civil libertiesInternment, repression and the courts

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We preprint here part of a leaflet dealing with the Crimtnal Law Jurtdtetion Bttl tgeued by the Untted Anti-Internment Committee in Belfast recently. us. Flock Dear Comrades, Republic No. 1.

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Thus the article declared: community”. women is ignored, although they tend to least-a less “middle class” body.

KILL THE BILL! | am writing to express dissatisfaction with the article “Shepherd versus Flock” in Socialist While the phrasing in the article could not be considered exceptionable it was presented in an “The Church .. . seeks to retain a firm hold over the flock it regards as sheep... is eager to ally itself to Government, to act a5 an-agent of social control for the state and thus increase its strength as an institution in the state... has sought to place a brake on militancy on the streets against repression, turning its official venom against militants within the Catholic However, the analysis given implies that this is clerical policy, rather than something integral to the system. A disillusioned priest's reference to the Church as “middle class” is quoted and Stress is nid on the anti (physical) repressive activities of Father Faul whilst his notorious the Church. (but inevitable) hatred of Republicanism and of handicap the credibility precisely of his moves against repression. So it is implied that it is at least possible for mass action to bring such church. pressure to bear on the Church in Northern ireland that it turns into a working class or, at In fact, since the Church international ‘surrendered to Constantine in the 4th century, its sheep have regularly been trying to assert their authority over their shepherds. The results of such attempts over the years have become increasingly satisfying to scientific observers, although at no time have they been what was originally intended. At first the Hierarchy managed to crush them with, yes, “dungeon fire and sword", but, with the spread of civilisation it had to accept the break-up of its organisation and now the actual los of the simple faith of its undisciplined members, Accordingly support for the Des Wilsonites B® not simply support for a democratic movement, it is rather support for such a movement that can only achieve democratic advance not only within a wider struggle but altogether outside its terms of reference, Asa further complication, it is particularly necessary to recognise this, insofar os, particularly in education, the Loyalists are ready and willing to counterpose to democratic demands loyalty to their state rather than All propaganda on these matters must be geared to these facts and towards democratic secular control of society particularly education rather than towards a utopian, democratic Yours fraternally, FERGUS MC ART

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